I think Chris is right about that. Those markings that are outside the fence probably have to do with various marked utility lines. Some are gas, others electric and water. I know there were yellow and blue markings down near the bridge and Hersheypark Place. I may take a quick walk down along there and check it out further before my opening day visit.

The orange markers with triangles are likely "survey control points"; they are highly accurate mapped points to survey off of in the future. If you look closely there is a metal nail driven in the middle of the triangles. If you recall, similar orange markings are seen along the perimeter of the proposed ride (markings on the path between Founders Circle and Comet Hallow for instance).

From these known points you can triangulate distance and height without having to map the GPS location every time you need to measure something. They provide a known reference frame for future measurements. For instance, the marking over the manhole cover is a perfect location for these marks because the sewer system is highly planned and mapped very well.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_network


Example:

Control points have nails:



Footers have stakes:

I literally just drove past the park and got some pictures but need some help getting them on here they are currently right now working rite where the lumber is stacked with quit a few workers and small bulldozers and construction vehicles

Here are my newest Attraction 2012 pics from today:




Looks like they're digging by the remaining pavilion. Not sure what they're doing since the ride won't be coming down this far.


A new trailor that has popped up on site. I think it may have been moved from another location on the construction site. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.


Not sure what this is for. I'm almost positive that it wasn't there during Springtime in the Park.






The black piping is spread out throughout the site in stacks. I couldn't locate the rebar that was delivered on Monday.




This portable fence showed up on site. Don't know if this means that the park's fence will eventually be re-aligned to fit the new attraction. Perhaps pushingbuttons' photos of the new markings possibly confirmed that.


You can see where they have dug away at the hillside.






It looks like what they're doing is re-directing the creek on the one side of the construction site by building the dirt mound down the middle. My guess is when they're finished pouring footers on this side, they'll re-direct the creek over so they can work on the other side doing the same thing.


An aerial view of the construction site.

After riding the Comet today and thinking back to the layout and where the layout could go, I am now 95% certain that the layout pictured above is the actual Attraction 2012 layout. After seeing a stake next to that shack, which would refer to the tight turn that would go over Comet, the section where they're digging, and the stakes near Comet's exit ramp and storage track.
What I did above is draw lines for all footers to suggest possible supports. This could help with figuring out where possible hills will be, their possible height, possible banked angle, and what could occur at certain sections of the ride.

They are really moving on this project. I bet by the time I go up with mathew they will have Alot finished. I heard that they are getting ready to put the concret footers in. soon very soon.

i been reading alot and i as someone who dreams to have a park of my own and love designing coasters and parks i found you guys discussion really facinatedting ima copy something i posted on facebook i know you guys talked a lil about this , Hey guys been reading the discussion on website well i did some research hershey as everyone knows is some what competetive well i seen a ride griffon its the tallest and fastest dive machine also involves water do you think hershey could be building one of these to break the world record? also in the discussion was floorless if hershey did this theyd have a dive machine coaster and floorless which would be a huge step for hershey i dont know how it would work but i guess its jus fun having a guess what it could be.. also been looking at other sites and found this amazing picture i wanted to do something of my own but couldnt figure how to do it so heres what i found heres the link it also talks about the zoning permit i guess they are totally keeping creek how it is thats my guess http://coaster-net.com/forums/index.php?/topic/11069-hersheypark-attraction-2012-discussion-thread/
its towrds bottom



Its floorless but check it out this isnt my best i couldnt get it to match i put it to far to the gate

HERES VID


http://youtu.be/Aciwd_uWpN0

EDIT: Welcome to the site. Please try not to double post and also use correct spelling and grammar. That way we can easily understand what everyone is saying. Thanks!
-Ccron10

^At this point, it's very unlikely that it will be a Dive Machine and if the park built something like what you made, there would be a lot of people killed because of the non-banked curves and sharp turns.
Basically what you've linked to is what we've already talked about and what the same person posted here.

LOL ccron, My thoughts exactly. Im still in shock to see why construction started so early. Im not so sure it was started early just to re direct the creek. Progress is only picking up and were still a little away from summer. I can finally contribute to the updates as promised! Also thanks to whoever posted the most recent update (had way better pics than mine) as mine were taken using a 8 megapixel cell phone camera..still good pictures though especially for a phone. The layout released may fit in the area but I have a feeling that is not the official one. As for the marks in the middle of the road..I think I remember seeing somewhere in the township approval for 2012 attraction that hershey will be adding crosswalks for crossing the street or could simply be more markings for sewer lines. Thanks Hershey keep up the pace!!

Also the facebook page does have a project 2012 page but its blank and has any one noticed on the hershey park website that they changed the park map and the area where the new attraction is got cut off my a big box

RIT is 100% Hershey.

Fine ill just not be apart i cant believe you guys are gonna discriminate like that i type and write whats easiest for me and also my keyboard is messed up ill jus watch :study:

Is that cgouse122 guy a troll? Of course RIT is Hershey we have known this for months. Anyway yes I am excited about the Materials and Design study being released. It always makes for good conversation on here. I usually let you guys figure everything out and just read along though. It has made Monday's better over the last 2 weeks for me anyway.

The new study is up. It has to do with a "spiderfiber net" stopping a speeding freight train. It cost 212 million to develop. There are several mentions of high speed trains too.

looks like a message in the web at the bottom of the page. There are letters in the dots. I came up with interview doctor. Not sure what is means though

I just saw the letters and I get Doctor Weivnetni. There is no r in the second word, the r is actually an n when you blow it up. I guess it could be intenview??? I'm confused.

*Edit - I tried both Doctor Weivnetni and Doctor wenivetni in the search box and got nothing.

The $212 million dollar mark probably references to the ride's highest point being 212-ft in height. Not sure what they're referring to with negative 196 degrees Celsius though. I doubt the drop will be another negative degree drop like Fahrenheit. Someone over at TPR thought maybe that that figure would probably represent the height of the drop.

They also mention about "high-speed trains" which would probably represent the speed that's coming with this thing.

When you linked the atoms together to create the word doctor.. Doesnt it look like a 2 is formed?
I think that red atom has significance too but i cant seem to figure it out.
Also, The second word I believe is interview. The quality is sooo poor but the R in doctor matches the letter in question. Unless its something else.. Then im just confused.

I have no idea where to even start with this study. Feels like another dead end like the last one. I'm kinda bummed...

^ You might be right about the r/n. Interview makes sense. Also it does look like the letters that spell doctor are in a 2 pattern.

Doctor is in the shape of a 2, but interview isn't.

I drew it out (sorry that the picture is so dark):

And I reversed it:

Looks like the shape of stars or constallations.

That's what I thought, too. But I can't figure out what constellation that would be though. The non-2-looking-one I was thinking maybe Draco, but no, they look nothing alike.

I'm thinking it's just be a pure coincidence that they resemble constellations. By the way, the dot that I drew between what I'll call the "constellations" is the atom that is open in maroon.

I just posted this over at TPR. It's relevant here too.

coasterfreak101 wrote:

212' and 196' do sound like height/drop heights, though. Especially since this thing is supposed to be 212.8' tall.

If that's what the site is saying, than I would bet that that is exactly what we're looking at. 212 ft high off of the water level, and a 196 foot drop, giving 16 feet (which I think is a lot) of clearence. I hope the "-196" refers to something else, but I don't know what else it could be.

Skycoastin Steve wrote:

Magnum PA wrote: I just think that building a ride that is statistically smaller than all of the megacoasters in the region makes this ride less marketable. I was hoping for something in the 230 ft tall, 5000+ ft long category, like recent B&M installations, something they could market as the largest in the Northeast. 212 feet would make it the tallest coaster in Pennsylvania, taller than Superman at SFA, taller than anything at BGW, and only 2nd to 305 in the Mid-Atlantic region. You would have to go all the way to CP, KI, or CW to find something taller, and Hershey doesn't even come close to drawing from the same crowd as those parks. Nothing in New England is taller than that, either. The only "exception" would be Phantom's Revenge, which has a 220+ foot drop, but that's not a huge difference.

Height is one thing, but the more important stat is the ride's drop. A 196 foot drop is great, but that would officially make it the shortest mega-coaster drop in the region:

Attraction 2012: 196'
Superman: 205'
Steel Force: 205'
Phantom's Revenge: 230'
Nitro: 215'
Bizarro: 221'
I-305: 300'

In addition, it's only 16 feet taller than one that they already have! Storm Runner has 180 foot, 90 degree drop. This one will be less steep and only 16 feet taller. In reality, Storm Runner could still have the best drop in the park. That's kinda' lame...

I stand by what I said, that Hershey is coming up short again on a steel coaster, in both height and length, based on the information out there right now. I just hope it delivers a heck of a ride in the little time it will take to navigate the course.

Skycoastin Steve wrote:

As far as ride length goes, it's tough to tell just from looking at a bird's eye view of the layout and tell exactly how long it is. If it has a lot of airtime hills, that will increase the length. We're also talking about a park that doesn't have a ton of space to put in a mile-long coaster. None of their other coasters are long at all, so it is what it is.

I agree that we can't tell the true length of the ride from the leaked layout, but if you're familiar with the construction site, like many of us are, it does look to be a short ride. If it is more than 4000 feet long, I will be surprised. In addition, it looks like there is a brake run before the U-turn around the Comet's lift, making the track length of the actual ride even shorter. I would estimate that there is 500+ feet of 'dead' track (in this case brakes, 180 degree turn, brakes, station, and lift track).

I don't mean to be overly negative. I love Hersheypark, and I feel fortunate to have it so close to home. I think it has a great collection of rides, and some pretty good roller coasters, particularly in the wooden category. For those that don't live close to the park, I can understand why you enjoy your rare visits, and think of it as one of the country's better parks. I understand the "Gees, just be glad you're getting a big Intamin ride" sentiment.

But there are some of us locals that are just getting tired of seeing a company with millions and millions in resouces repeatedly come up short on the steel coaster side of things (among some other questionable decisions). There are those of us who have been anticipating a megacoaster for many years, wondering if one would ever come. To see one statistically come up short again to similar rides around the country, it's a little disappointing at this point.

I find myself hoping the this isn't the megacoaster. As much as I want one at Hersheypark, I'm hoping this is a wing-rider. Those stats and that layout would make a great one of those.

-196ËšC is equivalent to 77K, and 77Ëš sounds like a reasonable drop angle.

It also looks like there is a dash in the red circle. Could it be DOCTOR-INTERVIEW?

Replacing Roller Soaker and adding more slides and water attractions to the Boardwalk would definitely be a good move, IMO. Unlike the other coasters, it's operating schedule has been cut back from Memorial Day to Labor Day when the first section of the Boardwalk debuted. It doesn't run for either STITP or HP in the Dark. Roller Soaker is the only coaster in the park I haven't ridden and mainly because I don't like to get super soaked. I also agree that it's definitely not worth the two-hour wait. Unfortunately, I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon because of the fact that it's part of the coaster line-up.

Ive ridden RollerSoaker a couple of times. Its a good ride but its not worth a long wait.

Got something!
Try DOCTOR_INTERVIEW and it takes you to a press page.
I already dropped them an email about doing an interview.

So does anyone have any questions about RIT?

Sounds like it could be similar to what happened back in March, except that this time, they didn't send individual emails to some of us. Wouldn't be surprised that another piece of the puzzle is revealed if you request another interview - lol.

Where did you put in "DOCTOR_INTERVIEW"?

I was close. I had tried DOCTOR-INTERVIEW everywhere I could think of, and I even sent an email to DOCTOR-INTERVIEW@rideinstititue.com, which got me a reply from JVD telling me that I was one character off from "moving this clue ahead".

Looks like searching with the underscore brings you to http://www.rideinstitute.com/pressResources.php

I'm sure people from other coaster sites who are following this will be doing the same thing. So it will be interesting to see what happens.

I agree what you said. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

So does anyone have any questions?

No questions but I am frustrated I didn't get that the other day. I tried Doctor Interview but didn't get anything. Figures I put a _ in there and we could have been on to this part a day sooner. I am trying to help but just can't seem to do much in terms of figuring out the clues. Some of you are so smart.