gb980109 wrote:The Tilt-a-Whirl, the restrooms and the games are all getting moved for the new ride. I do know how much space there is down there.
I figured as much. It seems, as was mentioned above, that Whack-a-Mole is being moved too.
gb980109 wrote:Fahrenheit is a cookie cutter ride. The park wasn't shortchanging capacity for space - that was Intamin's fault for designing the coaster in such fashion. As for Storm Runner, where did they shortchange capacity? Runner trains have more seats than Dragster and Kingda Ka trains. The only way you could have more seats on Storm Runner is having more trains, like Kingda Ka having 4 or Dragster's 3. But there's no room for that and it's really not necessary to have 3 Runner trains when it's only a 180 foot top hat.
What? So much is wrong with that paragraph.
Cookie cutter would mean the ride, or very similar rides, have been built in other locations. What exactly does Fahrenheit have that is cookie cutter? The vertical lift? Nope - a first for Intamin. 97 degree first drop? Nope - steepest ever. Norwegian loop? No - only one of those. Has that layout, or a similar layout, been done before? No, the ride is original and unique to Hersheypark. Just because it's situated on a relatively flat plot of land and is compact does not mean it is not a custom ride.
Intamin's fault? Really? How it works is Hershey comes to a manufaturer and says something like "We want a coaster that does (blank) and we want it in this location. What can you do for us?" Sure Intamin was involved with designing a vertical, space saving lift (requiring short trains for weight issues), and a short station (that allows for fewer trains). But Hershey is ultimately responsible, as they have the ultimate final say on what design they want and what manufacturer they go with.
It was the same case with Storm Runner. Absolutely it should have more than two trains. But, the station is too short (because of space constraints). Train length has little to do with it. Ka can operate four trains due to its station/dispatch design. Dragster runs six
, not three, because of its station and dual load/unload/dispatch/station design.
It's also funny that you mention that there was no room
for that on Storm Runner. That's what I was talking about.
gb980109 wrote:Minetown had plenty of space; enough to build what is still the biggest steel coaster station in the park. Yes, it's a lynch pin turn around the station, but that was easy part. The way harder part was the Creek. That was premium land down there. They ate up half of the Comet Hollow midway and the old miniature golf course. Minetown simply had more room than you think.
I don't follow what you're saying here. We're talking about room for a B&M station. Minetown had seemingly no space in 1997, certainly not enough room for a B&M inverted coaster. But the park removed attractions, paths, water ways (flume), and made space for a station. If Hersheypark wants to squeeze a non-traditional B&M station in a tight spot again, what's to stop them?
gb980109 wrote:As I've said, I don't see a B&M station fitting down there. The space just isn't there. With Intamin, they have their storage in back of the station - Fahrenheit. Fahrenheit's station could easily fit in that area, no problem.
That's fine if you can't envision a B&M station in Comet Hollow. I said the same thing in 1997, and the park made it happen. Even though we are all speculating at this point, it seems silly to me to eliminate B&M because their "traditional" station would not fit in the current space - a space that is sure to change.